01:15:42 Cristina Petcu: Just to clarify: you don't have to sign up to join the next meetings. You received the Zoom link for the next one in the email that was sent by UN2020 yesterday -- please go back and check it 01:15:55 ANNESHA: Thanks a lot 01:16:21 ANNESHA: And how do I know that UN have meetings? 01:17:23 African Diaspora Directorate: the solution AfricanDiasporaDirectorate.org are proposing is a unupr cso based solution embedded with the declaration of human rights that is based on creating a new round of global financing for the UN as a follow on to the 3rd round of financing for the SDGs.in 2015 01:18:10 African Diaspora Directorate: use google next time can stream to 100k over 250 on line 01:18:48 African Diaspora Directorate: they are making it free at enterprise level 01:19:29 African Diaspora Directorate: must talk about funding the un in the document 01:19:41 Andreas Bummel: This is Andreas of Democracy Without Borders. Maybe Dan or Jeff can elaborate more on the difference between the short and the long version in terms of future advocacy? 01:20:34 Cristina Petcu: I know there are a lot of us today on the call and only a few will have the time to speak so I encourage everyone to write their thoughts in the chat box and we will save the chat box afterwards and make sure that your inputs are reflected in the next draft 01:20:40 Akmal Ali: can we also please record this session as it will form a great form of reflection. 01:21:05 Christina Catalano: Akmal, it's recording 01:21:08 Jeffery Huffines: Dan let me speak 01:21:45 ANNESHA: Civil Society Declaration is going to be a guidance. So, short will be good, but we must consider basic problem which afterwards ICJ have to resolve. 01:22:23 richardjordan: Who is working on the followup to Achim Steiner's Digital Finance Panel? 01:22:33 Volker FES New York: I thought the first part of the discussion was about the procedures, not the content of the declaration. I agree with including financing! 01:22:44 Tad Daley: It's super important to have SOME KIND of short version. I still hardly ever encounter ANYONE in the outside world even aware that it IS the 75th annniversary of the UN. 01:22:45 Elena Marmo - GPF: Just to clarify for all, this is the abbreviated version, correct? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fQeiIIgda8ST_PUiBharNCY5G_nvDoLSLaLEiExOJa4/edit 01:23:09 Javier Surasky (Cepei): Yes 01:23:17 Cristina Petcu: That's correct Elena 01:24:05 liberatobautista: This is Levi Bautista with CoNGO (Conference of NGOs). I am looking at the abbreviated declaration. The draft currently prioritizes humanity but lacks a nuancing of “people and the planet” approach. 01:24:50 Cristina Petcu: The abbreviated version will be a key tool to lobby member states as they negotiate the official political negotiation for UN75. 01:25:32 Averin Collier: What languages are the draft declaration translated to, if any? 01:25:46 ANNESHA: But provide at least 1 week time 01:25:47 Christina Catalano: Christina - you said to put on inputs in the chat box, so I am gonna put them here. Hello, I am writing my inputs to put in the next draft. Under Creating The Enabling Environment, please put (i.) An environment that addresses corruption and mitigates the risks of corruption 01:25:55 ANNESHA: I can volunteer 01:25:58 Jeffery Huffines: Yes Elena that is the abbreviated version 01:26:20 ANNESHA: I can volunteer for translation 01:26:23 Javier Surasky (Cepei): I can translate the final short version into Spanish 01:26:37 Cristina Petcu: Thanks Christina and Levi -- very much agree 01:26:45 ANNESHA: I can speack English, Hindi, Bengali 01:26:46 Ashley Yong: How many languages are we translating into? 01:26:53 Kate: I have to hop off the call, but will send a couple reflections on substance this evening or tomorrow. 01:27:16 Cristina Petcu: those who volunteer to translate: could you please write me privately and share you emails? 01:27:58 Rob Wheeler: Why don’t we ask/invite those that said the Declaration still needs substantial work to mention their primary concerns or what they primarily think needs to be changed or added in this Chat? 01:28:18 Rob Wheeler: What do you mean by “talking points” again? 01:28:21 Christina Catalano: They can add their inputs herein, I believe 01:28:47 Akmal Ali: yesg 01:29:00 Akmal Ali: great idea. 01:29:09 liberatobautista: The Chat here is inadequate and fast moving to be making substantive comments. Commenting on the deab breviated declaration as a google doc will do it. 01:29:28 Javier Surasky (Cepei): Rob, I have shared my comments by mail 01:29:44 Rob Wheeler: You can scroll up and down the chat using the scroll bar on the right hand side alongside the chat 01:29:51 richardjordan: Agree with Levi 01:29:52 adriana - julia: In this day and age I think TPd in lieu of short version will have broader reach and will be easier to use snippets for social media etc 01:30:00 Jonathan: I think we should divide out programmatic suggestions from analysis. 01:30:09 Javier Surasky (Cepei): How we should ask for the floor? 01:30:12 Akmal Ali: is there a hastag for this 01:30:16 vgonzales@nckri.org: I just voted for talking points. That would address my concern of too much verbiage without as much direct substance. --George Veni 01:30:45 African Diaspora Directorate: have your tech people overlap with google enterprise on next call 01:30:46 Akmal Ali: any particular hastag? as i would like to begin twiting 01:30:52 Alyn Ware: Thanks Rob. I like the abbreviated version, but I have two significant problems. First, I think the statement (abbreviated and long) should call first on governments to better utilize and support the UN and global governance, and then second include the calls for UN reform. At the moment these two approaches are mixed. 01:30:53 Donna Park: I voted for another round of consultation not because I think there are major changes needed, but because I don't think there has been an opportunity for broad review of the abbreviated version. 01:30:59 Kathryn Adams: My experience has been that you need all: short version, long, and talking points. They serve very different purposes. 01:31:02 Rob Wheeler: scroll to the bottom and you will find the most recent chat or comments that have been added. Scroll up to read earlier comments 01:31:02 Tad Daley: Sorry my cute cat is still asleep Daniel 01:31:28 Andreas Bummel: Re: abbreviated version. In my view the action points 6-9 look fine. What needs review is the general part 01:31:44 Akmal Ali: Maybe those who suggested can volunteer to do so. 01:32:21 Akmal Ali: As its important to be part of solution not just raising issues. 01:33:15 Alyn Ware: My second problem is that the statement (long and short) fails to address the core aim of the UN 'to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war'. There is nothing on ending war and armed conflict, even though UNSG is calling for this, e.g. his recent video appeal for a ceasefire to help address coronavirus. 01:33:35 Jeffery Huffines: Dan — Harshani cannot get on because of 100 limite 01:33:41 Alyn Ware: thank you.... 01:33:59 Cristina Petcu: we understand that ideally we would be able to open the docuemnts for direct editing but, unfortunately, if too many people are editing a document at once then it starts moving very slow. if people have ideas of what are the best methods to provide direct suggestions to the declaration/abbreviated version please let us know. we are still looking into options 01:34:10 Kathryn Adams: I think it would be good to translate for further consultation because we leave out MANY who are not fluent in English in the consolation process if we do too much before translation 01:34:14 Andreas Bummel: What I am missing in the general part is a strong commitment - even mention of - democracy. This concerns both versions, short and long 01:34:19 Tad Daley: Ditto on Alyn Ware. It's THE reason the United Nations was given birth! 01:34:51 Kathryn Adams: That should say “consultation” not “consolation” 01:34:53 Fergus Watt: Future calls will allow capacity for greater number of participants. We won’t have this problem in future calls. 01:34:56 ANNESHA: This cannot be done by streghthening UNSC. We need to give more power to UNSC. 01:35:28 ANNESHA: P5 need more power for implementation because SDG is failing in some countries. 01:36:20 ANNESHA: Weekly Zoom calls 01:36:31 arthurdahl: Social, health and economic issues need better balance with environment/climate change in para.2 01:36:38 Joseph C: the forefathers of the US constitution wanted everyone to own land and a home, as the political philosophy then and to this day is that only the aristocracy or landowners should have power 01:36:40 Akmal Ali: regional would be great. 01:36:51 Akmal Ali: as the pacific is always left behind. 01:37:01 Tina Pastore: Maybe you can divide the group to workshop separately. 01:37:12 ANNESHA: I can help to draft also 01:37:12 Joseph C: see "the citizen's share" 01:37:27 richardjordan: Small working groups are an option for Zoom, I am on a daily call that has 23 working groups of 3 each. 01:37:32 Shimri Zameret: Hi all, Jeffery suggested I share my question: Is there or should there be a plan to do a separate, earlier, civil society call / declaration / list of demands related to the Coronavirus crisis and global governance? It seems like such a great opportunity 01:38:02 gabrielekohler: I can drop out and send comments in writing. 01:38:33 gabrielekohler: More in writing, stay healthy, kind regards. Gabriele in Munich 01:38:54 Bette Levy: I will have to leave in a few minutes but I’m concerned that we’re trying to include too many special interests as I mentioned in the note I sent this morning. 01:38:54 Averin Collier: Can we create a conference call engaging youth and young people? 01:39:46 Deirdre McDermott: Question for Richard Jordan: can those 23 WGs all join together in a single zoom meeting? 01:39:48 New York Team: Happy to help with drafting talking points 01:39:52 marvie misolas: The UN 75 is also asking survey and open to all, could we consider that also in the final drafting? 01:40:03 ANNESHA: I would love to help in drafting 01:40:09 Alyn Ware: I agree with Averin… A conference call for youth would be good. 01:40:12 African Diaspora Directorate: is there a WG for the people of african descent? 01:40:30 richardjordan: I am not sure about that, I can ask today, our call is 4-430 and 430 to 440 is the "working groups/appreciative inquiry model" 01:40:52 Alyn Ware: I would be interested in a working group on the peace and security section... is that possible? 01:41:01 African Diaspora Directorate: anyone on who is a person of african descent can contact us hershel.daniels@africandiasporadirectorate.org 01:41:04 Christina Catalano: I can help with drafting talking points as well if it is needed, along with the others that volunteered 01:41:10 Tad Daley: "that idea would never work right now" is, in my view, NOT an argument for not openly declaring our aspirations! 01:41:16 MaudeGorman: I would be happy to connect with my youth colleagues involved with the UN for our conference call specific to youth. 01:41:45 Shaima Aly: hello, we notice that the survey inputs are not included in the declaration 01:41:51 olakukoyi: Let me know which working groups are in place and I am willing to assist in one of them. Thanks 01:41:55 Christina Catalano: Donovan from UNMGCY and the new lead are doing a call tomorrow for Youth 01:42:39 Cristina Petcu: great to know that we have young leaders on the call. we will make sure to share the declaration with UNMGCY and ask their feedback 01:43:00 African Diaspora Directorate: we based our plan on the work in WGEPAD and UNUPR and daily have calls at 8pm est fyi AfricanDiasporaDirectorate.org 01:43:05 Tinashe: Is there a working group for people on the African continent? 01:43:12 Jeffery Huffines: Christina, it would be useful for us to coordinate our messaging with UNMGCY as the co-facilitators will be privileging the messages coming out of the Youth Plenary & Forum 01:43:32 Shaima Aly: at least we have to add comments in the google shared document. Many points are missed from our side "UNWMG" 01:43:45 Christina Catalano: Youth session from email - It will take place this Friday 27th March 2020, at 15.00 UTC on ZOOM (https://zoom.us/j/152363526). 01:43:46 Averin Collier: Can I get information regarding UNMGCY to participate in the call tomorrow? 01:43:59 Christina Catalano: Yes, please look at my comment above 01:44:23 Jeffery Huffines: Hi Shaima — I agree that we are missing the perspective of WMG. I had in fact mentioned this to Dan yesterday, so your help to reach out to WMG would be most appreciated. 01:44:23 MaudeGorman: Thank you for sharing the details for tomorrow Christina 01:44:40 Averin Collier: Thank you for sharing! 01:45:24 Rob Wheeler: typically when translations are made and used they are translated into the 6 UN languages; but we can add others to if people want and are willing to help with translations. Google Translate does a pretty good job now and can provide a first translation that can then be further edited. 01:45:52 Christina Catalano: Anyone who is interested in the Youth call tomorrow, it is ONLY for environmental and climate policy. Please note. 01:46:12 ANNESHA: Can I join the youth call? 01:46:19 African Diaspora Directorate: people of african descent are a 1.6b need for a wg 01:46:20 Javier Surasky (Cepei): How can I raise my hand? Please, help! 01:46:39 Cristina Petcu: Thanks Christina and others. let's be in touch to organize something for youth's input to the declaration/UN75 01:46:43 richardjordan: Are we thinking 25 years ahead?? 01:46:59 Vanda Proskova: Hi, thank you for sharing info on the youth call. Is it open to public? 01:47:02 olakukoyi: I am interested in the youth call tomorrow. So, please send me the invite 01:47:04 Christina Catalano: I completely agree, Christina. I'm going to email Donovan so we can coordinate. 01:47:06 david newman: SUbstance advice: 1. Be bolder and remove praise for UN and focus on critical existential urgent issues only.2. Nuclear Disarmament and climate change and flaws in sovereign state protection and safety of human life and health. leading to stateless people and 60 million refugees 3. 5 having veto power at UN. no longer acceptable especially when have the same 5 under NPT with sole approved rights to Nuke weapons 4. How avoid domination of USA UK. France Russia China over opressed, impoverished vulnerable people globally including in those 5 countries? This includes women and children everywhere. Consider moving key UN offices into their service. e.g into UNESCO Commissions where positive peace through peace literacy education and action in education systems worldwide can be inspired and faciltated. 01:47:07 Jonathan: we can divide aspirational section into short term and long term. short would be practical and likely to get adopted. long would be visionary and still practical from our point of view but politically not possible now 01:47:12 Alyn Ware: To raise your hand, go to bottom function box 'more', click on 'participants' nd the hand raise function will open up 01:47:26 Dennis Wong - CT: Theme - Goal? -- The Future We the People Want, The UN We Need (to deliver what We the People Want) What is The Future We the People Want? 01:47:26 Javier Surasky (Cepei): How can I raise my hand? Please, help! 01:47:31 African Diaspora Directorate: funding of the un is a prime requirement for any document 01:47:38 Rob Wheeler: Typically translations are provided in the 6 UN languages, but we can add others as well if people want to help translate to more languages. Google Translate does a pretty good job now, so that can be used to make a first draft translation that can then be further edited. 01:47:38 olakukoyi: I will like to know more about the Citizens Initiative. Thanks 01:47:43 Scott Carlin: “we can divide aspirational section into short term and long term. “ - Yes that would be quite helpful!! 01:47:56 Alyn Ware: From Me to Everyone: 03:13 PM To raise your hand, go to bottom function box 'more', click on 'participants' and the hand raise function will open up 01:48:12 adriana - julia: i have a follow up comment on covid, if there is time 01:48:42 richardjordan: As I understand the virus, this is one of a group of known corona viruses, but of course different. Should we think both specifically and generally? 01:49:03 Andreas Bummel: The proposed new instrument of a UN World Citizens' Initiative is endorsed by +140 civil society groups and networks. For details please check: https://www.worldcitizensinitiative.org/ 01:49:09 liberatobautista: Comment on Volker’s point on Covid19. We must strengthen the declaration by using a “health of the people and health of the planet” framework. This is the same language as the SDGs’ “people and the planet”. 01:49:28 Rob Wheeler: 6 UN languages are english, french, german, spanish, arabic, and chinese if I remember right. If that is right then I think it would be good to include Hindi and an African dialect, etc 01:49:29 Celine: SG letter to G20 Virtual meeting has many valid requests can be included in our document. 01:49:50 Alyn Ware: Here are a couple of articles on global governance and corona virus. http://www.unfoldzero.org/human-security-and-the-united-nations-vital-to-address-the-pandemic/ and https://www.newsweek.com/human-security-national-security-covid-19-coronavirus-1492830 01:50:15 Javier Surasky (Cepei): Sorry, but I can't find any "more" button... 01:50:17 African Diaspora Directorate: we have a chance from the cso space in the usa to create a $30T 75 year public private partnership w the unupr embedded in it 01:50:22 Rob Wheeler: Thanks for this input and link Alyn. I fully agree 01:50:24 Andreas Bummel: Agree. Democracy must be stressed more in both drafts. 01:50:25 Elena Marmo - GPF: The declaration has too much emphasis on uniting without recognizing diversity of how and differentiated responsibilities. Must address inequalities, only way to pursue universal and indivisible HR 01:50:30 richardjordan: Agree with Levi 01:50:36 david newman: check out www.peaceliteracy.org 01:50:36 Javier Surasky (Cepei): SO I can't raise my hand :( 01:50:38 Bahai Offices: Javier - your hand is raised in my eyes :) 01:50:58 Javier Surasky (Cepei): Lovely answer. Thanks Daniel 01:51:00 adriana - julia: most countries are scrambling to respond to the pandemic and thinking only about the emergency. but this pandemic will happen in cycles and the UN should promote ideas for the longer term that will protect the most vulnerable 01:51:08 Rick Orser: AGREE on DEMOCRACY ! 01:51:20 African Diaspora Directorate: most nations are not Democratic states and would block action 01:51:31 RG: UN official languages Arabic Chinese English French Russia and Spanish... 01:51:33 New York Team: Yes, universal values must be brought forward because values are the building blocks of cultures and they are the fundamentals that are either coherent or divergent 01:51:52 Sandy Hecker: COVID-19, We need more data on displacement camps and immigrants. Some Member States not providing accurate numbers. 01:51:55 Connie Sobon Sensor: I agree with health of the people and the planet...without this goal we don't need anything else 01:52:33 olakukoyi: Yes, I am of the opinion that WHO should make their voices heard and the the lead in this COVID 19. This will help a lot of countries especially the US 01:52:34 Cristina Petcu: I need two volunteers for the Russian and Arabic versions. anyone with these language skills on the call who would like to help? 01:52:37 Sergei Zelenev: it would important to underscore that world governance should not be seen as an attempt to create the world government; 01:53:04 Rob Wheeler: ok, so the 6th UN language is Russian and not German 01:53:14 African Diaspora Directorate: the usa is a republic and will fight this around the issue of international law overriding domestic law. In the US us treaties are not self executing. 01:53:24 Shaima Aly: cristina i can do the Arabic, this is Shaima from UN WMG 01:53:24 ANNESHA: Thank you. 01:53:40 Sergei Zelenev: we need to highlight somehow the issue of implementation and enforcement; 01:53:47 Cristina Petcu: we will to German as well as we want to translate it in as many languages as possible and not necessarily only focus on the Un official languages 01:53:51 liberatobautista: Democracy rests on robust participation. That implies the reduction of exclusionary dynamics. The Declaration must be stronger on threats to democracy, including racism and xenophobic nationalisms. 01:54:11 marvie misolas: Address the use of military power and funding, channeling the budgets to social protection and floors focusing on environment, health and sustainable economy for all people. 01:54:13 Khalid El Harrouni: Ok for Arabic version 01:54:23 Bahai Offices: I see you Jonathan :) 01:55:10 New York Team: world governance/government is important distinction that goes to addressing the importance and impedance of sovereignty 01:55:31 Sergei Zelenev: intellectual contribution of the UN-- three streams -- member states; un staff analytical reports; civil society ideas 01:55:35 richardjordan: rob, is there not some entity providing funding to have German translations of documents, although maybe not all of them?? But absolutely right, not an official language. 01:56:17 Sandy Hecker: My comments on declaration will be in email 01:56:21 Christina Catalano: I'm going to leave this meeting to make room for others. I sent out the email, Christina, and look forward to the finalized declaration! 01:56:23 marvie misolas: Planetary health is the background of all life. 01:56:56 Cristina Petcu: Thank you all!I believe we got volunteers for most of the languages mentioned here. THANK YOU ALL WHO VOLUNTEERED 01:56:59 Donna Park: I propose this time of global crisis is a good time to promote the idea of the need for a democratic federation of nations. We can only solve our global problems with adequate global structures. 01:57:02 Dennis Wong - CT: For The Futute We the People Want -- in thr context of the UN Declaration What do we see as the roles and responsiblities of: 1. We the People 2. Civil Sociery Organizations 3. Big Global Businesses incliding the Military Industrial Complex 4. Member States 5. United Nations 6. Other? For a Culture of Peace 01:57:22 Ashley Yong: Cristina, I can volunteer for Chinese, hope you received my personal message, thank you 01:57:23 Bette Levy: sorry I have to join another call that started at 10 am but I look forward to listening to the rest of this call. 01:58:15 African Diaspora Directorate: we need to concentrate on what does the follow up on sdg 2030 agenda ie the agenda 2045...support what he is saying 01:58:43 New York Team: yes, Jonathan! 01:58:46 Rob Wheeler: Good idea Jonathan. Thank you! 01:58:51 MaudeGorman: Great idea Jonathan!! 01:58:56 Elena Marmo - GPF: For the proposed Independent Commission on Global Governance, how do we ensure this is different than the last one? 01:59:05 Alyn Ware: Jonathan's proposed approach is superb and would help make the declaration more clear and understandable and systematic. 01:59:12 RG: Yes Jonathan 01:59:13 Cristina Petcu: I received all messages from volunteers. thank you and sorry if I couldn't respond individually we let's be in touch when we have the abbreviated version ready for translation 01:59:24 African Diaspora Directorate: yes Jonathan 01:59:29 brenda newman: yes jonathon 01:59:29 Donna Park: I support what Jonathan is saying. Call for short-time, practical action, plan for longer-term improvements, as well as opportunity to discuss long term vision of how to save our world for all humanity. 01:59:31 Ashley Yong: Thanks Cristina! 01:59:48 Tinashe: Good point Jonathan, that will prevent us from stretching ourselves too thin. 01:59:56 richardjordan: Elena, I am confused on the Commission for Global Governance, how differes from 1995 work?? 02:00:22 Ann Frisch: Sunday evening March 29 19:00 to 20:30 EST What can this crisis teach us about the other existential threats to life on the planet: nuclear weapons and climate change? Dr. Ira Helfand is speaking. Zoom id is: https://zoom.us/j/954502216. See Back from the Brink: A Virtual Tour with Dr. Ira Helfand. 02:00:30 Elena Marmo - GPF: How do we balance calls for new “things” with implementing work of HR experts—Bohoslavsky on debt, Alston on digital technologies and inequality etc. 02:00:43 Jeffery Huffines: I agree with Javier that we need to include SDGs as well as HLPF review 02:01:15 Elena Marmo - GPF: I know Jeff raised this earlier, but I really feel like we are missing feminist voices in this discussion and in the drafts overall. 02:01:16 MaudeGorman: very great points Akmal 02:01:45 richardjordan: Elena, check Feminist Foreign Policy. Might be of interest. 02:01:55 Cristina Petcu: I believe that the failure of the GG Commission in '95 was lack of follow-through. we need to emphasize the need for civil society to support the follow-on work of any commission that is appointed 02:02:10 Bahai Offices: @Cristina - this is what I am hoping for, too 02:02:17 Joseph C: the WHO response to covid19 has been disppointing and worrisome to say the least. Had we implemented strict quarantine measures at ports of entry months ago in NZ we would not have the that threat in our territories. 02:02:20 david newman: Listen. and learn from. the colonized and the values of Indigenous Peoples worldwide and others who have for 1000s of years understood that beings are more than human ones and Sentient Non-sentient beings and wisdom of past generations and 7 generations ahead must be taken into consideration before thoughts, words and actions are activated.This value system is essential for sustainable of life on earth . 02:02:32 Deirdre McDermott: Can we be more inclusive than confining it to the 193 member states and their citizens? We should aspire to including every citizen in the world - and look for ways of removing restrictions that are commonly offered, in the name of ‘membership’. 02:02:46 African Diaspora Directorate: Global Emergency call by The African Diaspora Directorate around the People of African Descent 8:00 – 10:00pm EST Daily, until August 25th 2020 Join Hangouts Meet meet.google.com/tvz-ocjo-xky Watch live stream stream.meet.google.com/stream/36a69b91-3eb9-41d6-8039-d7a8ab1bf0ed Join by phone ‪+1 409-344-5214‬ PIN: ‪229 620‬# 02:02:49 Tad Daley: Katrina vanden Heuvel wrote a terrific manifesto about a feminist foreign policy for THE NATION a few years back 02:02:56 Ann Frisch: Re women’s voice, chair could alternate between men and women. Until it becomes practice. 02:03:22 liberatobautista: The gender critique and contribution to all issues that the drafts address is missing, if not currently weak. For example, in the area of peacebuilding. 02:03:26 New York Team: yes, Akmal - shifting the lens from charity is important because in many ways charity is the runoff of broken systems and is used to put bandaids on systemic problems 02:03:29 Rick Orser: Democracy is about having a VOICE - & supporting Human Rights for All Humanity All Global Citizens. 02:03:39 Deirdre McDermott: Akmal is right. The relicts of colonialism is a dilemma - and not just for the Pacific… 02:03:43 olakukoyi: @Joseph C, I will not say that the UN via WHO has done a poor job but it can do more 02:04:13 Joseph C: self determination could be empowered by direct democracy and also thereby hold the moral high ground 02:04:27 ANNESHA: Yes, I am willing to help 02:04:42 Ann Frisch: Re democracy, there is some literature on experimental democracy. Deep Democracy, Archon Fung, are key words coming to me. 02:04:54 ANNESHA: Yes, I am willing to help in drafting 02:05:06 MaudeGorman: I agree with Akmal in taking an asset-based approach instead of a deficit-based approach. 02:05:36 Akmal Ali: thank you new york team, deirdre and joseph. 02:06:11 Joseph C: a worldwide confederation could form around the ideology of direct democracy with a strong independent judiciary and constitution ensuring the well-being and rights of minorities. 02:07:14 African Diaspora Directorate: have to go late for another call...but endorse Jonathan's recomendation and as we celebrated the history of slavery yesterday we remember the history of Africa in the past 2,000 years including the Arab invation as this crisis lets us change the global infrastructure based on ending chattel slavery and address global poverty for over 3b people with over 1.3 billion being People of African Descent. 02:07:20 Cristina Petcu: we will inform you about the decision we take to offer direct inputs to the document but in the meantime, if you have outstanding inputs or wish to volunteer with any part of the process (including Advocacy) please feel free to write us. Disclaimer: if all 100 of you write us we might be able to keep up with the flow of emails so thank you for your patience while we decide on the best tools we can use to receive your direct inputs to the declaration draft. 02:07:21 Cristina Petcu: Jeffery Huffines: jeffery@un2020.org Daniel Perell: dperell@bic.org Cristina Petcu: cpetcu@stimson.org 02:07:22 liberatobautista: Hearing the Pacific NGO intervention, it is important to use language in the declaration that is invites inclusion. For example, n Para. 4 of the abbreviated version, where it says “We call upon leaders of character and wisdom”—while good, it implies the participation only of the wise and of good character—but who decides who are these? Instead, we could say “We call on the wisdom of the peoples of the world…” or something like it. 02:07:34 Donna Park: The US found that a confederation didn't work. 02:07:38 Sandy Hecker: I agree with Shaima 02:07:57 Elena Marmo - GPF: Yes—thank you for sharing Shaima! In next steps for consultation, it will be critical to ensure feminist voices and voices from the Global South are actively consulted, not just incorporated from existing publications etc. Something we discussed in detail on the last call was the need to recognize the difference between “grassroots” and “Global South” voices. 02:08:08 New York Team: in some ways, our work is to create systemic changes that make much of NGO work obsolete because the systems themselves are just and geared to create health of people and planet, which would inherently 02:08:30 ANNESHA: Thanks for the email address. 02:09:55 Fergus Watt: yes 02:09:55 richardjordan: I agree with Jonathan and Alyn, the recommendations need a futurist aspect a well. 02:09:56 Cristina Petcu: yes, we can't hear 02:09:59 david newman: the current colonizers are USA, Uk, France, China and Russia. All other countries and peoples. of the world are dominated by them for. their benefit not the benefits of the colonized. UN needed to protect and liberate and nurture the potential of the global human family and protect essential elements for life on our planet. the potential 02:10:00 Sandy Hecker: Education. Will expand in email. 02:10:04 Javier Surasky (Cepei): Impossible to hear 02:10:06 Sandy Hecker: Do not hear 02:10:15 Donna Park: His bandwidth is too low 02:10:21 Dennis Wong - CT: In follow-up to Jonathan, what if we placed our future concerns in four categories as follows: 1. Ecological Collapde 2. Nuclear War 3. Technological Disruption 4. The Unknown How could the United Nations and Member States address these concerns. 02:10:45 Akmal Ali: thank you Jonathan. 02:11:23 Alyn Ware: Thank you for opportunity to speak. My suggestion was that the recommendations should be split into a) Recommendations on better using the existing UN and global governance mechanisms, support the UN and implementing UN goals like abolition of war and achieving SDGs, an then b) Recommendations on improving UN and global governance. 02:11:31 richardjordan: Dan, 23 minutes left and don't we need some time for next steps, etc?? 02:11:33 Ann Frisch: Is there a women’s coalition in this group? 02:11:52 Deirdre McDermott: Why don’t you start one Ann? 02:12:00 Deirdre McDermott: I’ll join!± 02:12:10 Tinashe: I'll join as well 02:12:36 Vanda Proskova: I’d love to join too! 02:12:42 MaudeGorman: I would join as well! 02:12:47 Shaima Aly: WMG will be glad to join 02:12:49 ANNESHA: I will join also 02:13:08 Deirdre McDermott: Sounds like we have one! 02:13:08 MaudeGorman: Sergei, great points with World Governance vs. World Government. 02:13:11 Bahai Offices: Let’s get some men to join the women’s coalition! That’s gender equality. I’m in :) 02:13:22 Shaima Aly: we have to start one to have the final declaration with some gender lens 02:13:23 Anna Frank: I would love to join too 02:13:24 Deirdre McDermott: You are welcome! 02:13:28 Shaima Aly: :) 02:13:36 New York Team: yes - global citizenship is an important distinction 02:13:40 Sandy Hecker: Will join women's group 02:13:43 Dennis Wong - CT: One idea is to do what is already there ... 1. Univeral Declaration of HJuman Rights 2. The Culture of Peace Prerhaps we all need as rethink ond a commitment to these two UN resolutions. 02:14:01 adriana - julia: many thanks everyone, I have to go give my kids lunch 02:14:04 Rob Wheeler: It is great to be here with so many old friends again. Hi everyone. 02:14:07 Tinashe: We also need to take economic sovereignty into consideration.... Developing nations need to be decolonized and protected from recolonization. 02:14:15 ANNESHA: I am also supporting global citizenship. As Criminologist, I can ensure that this can remove many crime. 02:14:25 Ann Frisch: Women’s group email me at RAGFPnukefreeplanet@gmail.com 02:14:39 ANNESHA: Thanks ANN 02:14:54 Shaima Aly: Thanks Ann, we will email you 02:14:59 Shaima Aly: appreciate it 02:16:25 Ann Frisch: Anyone here from Jammu/Kashmir? 02:16:28 Joseph C: ok, how about declaring the necessity for a more democratic system at the UN level, so as to create more unity and inclusion, and replacing the security council and veto power system with a purely democratic one, with binding world citizen's initiated referendum system 02:17:18 MARIA FERNANDA ROBAYO SALCEDO: Hi everyone, I share my e-mail to have a summary of the call as well as the recording, if it possible: mfrobayo@clubmadrid.org many thanks! 02:17:24 liberatobautista: The imagination of the UN as well as the UDHR was to address what has mired the world prior to both the League of Nations and the UN—and these are slavery, colonialism and genocide. In the reckoning part of the Declaration, we must not fail to mention these because they are part of the imagination of a new role order for which the UN was set to do. How are we doing, 75 years after, on these issues? For example, “decolonization” remains an unfinished agenda and yet it is so muted in the international discourse except among those who are directly affected—indigenous peoples, for one. 02:17:29 Averin Collier: In short we need to provide language to active the youth on college campus. That demographic can engage in problem solving and solution based resolutions that can power generations to come. Someone mentioned blockchain technology and empowering women voices. College campus harbor and incubate the environment that would facilitate robust participation and diverse participation. How can we hold true to and Agenda looking down the to 2045 without having the future leaders aware of how their future is being dictated? 02:17:33 Akmal Ali: the asks 02:17:53 Akmal Ali: In my opinion we must first understsnd 02:18:34 Rick Orser: Democracy is an evolving concept & process. Locally, Nationally Globally 02:19:38 Fred Carver (UNA&TogetherFirst): Dan: great point on which approaches to mention - that strikes me as something where a poll would be quite useful in seeing which mechanisms be included? 02:19:53 Fred Carver (UNA&TogetherFirst): ie multiple choice: 02:19:55 Fred Carver (UNA&TogetherFirst): - SDGS 02:19:58 Fred Carver (UNA&TogetherFirst): - 1325 02:20:01 Fred Carver (UNA&TogetherFirst): etc... 02:20:14 Akmal Ali: i am sorry my key board is playing. but what i wanted to say is that. the UN is a body owned and governed by governments of the world. so if we are to realistically achieve anything we also must be able to work with current system and people to be able to achieve the change that we want. any confrontational move will only result in dissappointment. 02:20:24 marjo: Dear all, I second Jonathan, Akmal Ali and Alyn Ware. We need a declaration in simple language, emphasizing the dignity of all human beings and other life forms and respect for nature, our Mother Earth. This declaration could lead towards a world constitution, a framework giving guidance as to how we are going to manage planet Earth. Not to mention all the different groups. Just mention the "vulnerable" and the vulnerable. 02:20:33 Shaima Aly: yes thats really important lets keep now the UN language then brief for public dissemination 02:20:46 marjo: Vulnerable ad the voiceless. 02:20:54 ANNESHA: We should draft it keeping in mind that courts should not be burderned. Since this declaration contains Human rights, individuals have power to challenge before international court. So, we must consider that too. 02:21:15 New York Team: Yes - fulfillment on commitments already made 02:21:21 Jeffery Huffines: May I speak? 02:21:32 david newman: For youth approach. check out www.youthnuclearpecesummit.org 02:21:49 Ann Frisch: Anyone here from organizers for a people’s Europe? 02:22:10 New York Team: And acknowledgement that commitment is not enough 02:22:11 ANNESHA: Mr. David the link is not opening 02:22:16 liberatobautista: If the reference to “we the peoples” is to gain even greater traction, we must re-articulate, indeed re-narrativize what is an all-too state-centric language of multilateralism today. For example, instead of referring to “non-state actors” as all of us who are not government, with government being the primary reference, we then undermine our own assertion of the reimagination of the original idea of “We the peoples.” 02:22:28 Vanda Proskova: https://www.youthnuclearpeacesummit.org 02:22:37 Amel Karoui: I agree with you 02:22:49 Alyn Ware: also on youth see http://baselpeaceoffice.org/article/un2020-youth-voices-and-inter-generational-dialogue-climate-peace-and-disarmament 02:23:14 ANNESHA: How to sign up Vanda? 02:23:21 ANNESHA: I want to join. 02:24:13 Scott Carlin: Daniel (and Dennis): Re: Fulfilling Commitments already made. The Analysis portion of the document (as Jonathan offers) should focus on why the current structure of the UN has made it so challenging to implement the already agreed to goals. Short and Long term reforms should focus on structural changes that help to remove those barriers to implementation. For example for the Paris Agreement, voluntary national agreements are not very appropriate for a planetary crisis. Paris 2.0 should require mandatory and enforceable climate commitments with a strong focus on human rights, environmental justice, and a strengthening of our global commons. 02:24:19 Dennis Wong - CT: Always keep in mind, the purpose and goal of the Declaration. Who is the primary target audience -- member states? What do we want the member states to do? What are the roles of the United Nations and Civil Society Organizations? 02:24:48 Vanda Proskova: Annesha - Not sure, I’ll try emailing them at youthnuclearpeacesummit@gmail.com . 02:25:17 liberatobautista: Another notion we have used is “global citizenship”. We must revisit this with respect to the increase of “stateless peoples”. Democracy’s Achille’s heel, if I may say, lies in the manner in which it delegitimizes both the identity and political character of its peoples. This is why the lack of nuanced discussion of migrants, refugees and all situations of peoples in mobility must be addressed in the Declaration. Forced migration is remaking national governance and certainly vexing our received notions of multilateral governance. 02:25:29 Sandy Hecker: Perhaps under education we can include some of the talking points we might omit and consolidate in declaration. . Activism at the local level. Youth 02:26:03 olakukoyi: You are right on point, Jeffery. It should definitely be an agenda item. Thanks 02:26:52 Scott Carlin: Thanks Levi. Global Citizenship should be strengthened in the UN System especially for those who are without basic rights and resources. 02:27:06 brenda newman: Youthnuclearpeacesummit.org typo was earlier 02:28:31 Andreas Bummel: There is an important global innovation in the area of direct democracy proposed in the declarations - that's the Instrument of a World Citizens' Initiative 02:28:51 Donna Park: Joe Schwartzberg has suggested universal representation on the Security Council, using weighted voting. Check out his recommendation in his book Transforming the UN System: Designs for a Workable World. 02:29:15 Tad Daley: Would the veto-wielding nations like your proposal Jocelyn? Absolutely not. Does that mean we should shut up about it? Absolutely not. 02:29:25 marjo: Review conference of the UN Charter. see article 109 (3) of the Charter. 02:29:28 Dennis Wong - CT: Thanks to Dan, Jeff and everyone for caring and sharing thoughts on the UN We Need to deliver on The Future We the People Want. Peace. 02:29:39 liberatobautista: Re Akmal’s point: Direct democracy suffers from its being yoked to formal citizenship. There is discussion in academic circles about repopulating the “international” so that what matters are the nationals (peoples) and not the “nations”. 02:30:12 ANNESHA: International law is already binding. UDHR made it. 02:30:18 Ann Frisch: Rather than take on the UN structure, build people power, (ability to do something), then have voice and voices! 02:31:02 ANNESHA: We need direct effect of international law to make it more strong 02:31:03 Marta: hi. this is marta - el salv.. its important to have a document that refers to the how the UNITED NATIONS, NATIONS NOT GOVTS.. IS REALLY FIT FOR PURPOSE, AND ALSO THE ROLE AND PRESENCE OF CIVIL SOCIETY IN THIS CREATED MUST EXPENSIVE SPACE THAT AT THIS MOMENT MIGHT TALK ABOUT THE REAL SITUATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE AND HAVE BEEN FACING THROUGH OUT THE WORLD.. AND FROM MANY, ESPECIALLY FROM PEOPLES MOVEMENTS, CIVIL SOC IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE ..the real purpose of all UN post 2015 new dev agendas is to make sure the errors of the past and the present are corrected so NO ONE IS EVER LEFT BEHIND AGAIN, THAT IS, THE OVERARCHING PURPOSE IS TO LIVE IN PEACE IN A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.. .. PEACE MUST BE THE ROUTE AND GUIDE.. AND ALL THE AGENDAS AND ASPECTS THAT EMANETED FROM IT MUST WK WITH EAVCH OTHER TRANSVERSALLY AND INTEGRALLY ON TIME.. BEST .. MARTA 02:31:23 Carmen Capriles: I believe that this crisis will help us identify many ways to change! thanks Jeff and Dan, and everybody in the call! 02:31:29 Sandy Hecker: More time 02:31:36 Joseph C: thank you so much! 02:31:53 ANNESHA: I am extremely greatful to United Nation. 02:31:56 ANNESHA: Thank you 02:32:02 Sandy Hecker: More zoom 02:32:11 ANNESHA: Yes more zoom 02:32:18 ANNESHA: We need a slack group 02:32:22 Bahai Offices: dperell@bic.org 02:32:48 liberatobautista: Thanks Dan and Jeff for this healthy and productive process, including all who shared thoughts orally and on the chat page. 02:32:56 Ashley Yong: Highest gratitude to Dan and Jeff, looking forward to contribute and engage more with everyone. 02:32:58 vgonzales@nckri.org: My thanks to Dan for coordinating all of this so well. --George Veni 02:33:15 Andreas Bummel: Thank you very much 02:33:45 Averin Collier: Agree with Ann Frisch! Mobilizing the youth can ensure these outcome are achieved. 02:34:11 Elena Marmo - GPF: Governments, and the private sector!! 02:34:13 Sandy Hecker: Sl;ack group. Thank you Dan.. All stay healthy. 02:34:30 Khalid El Harrouni: Thanks Dan for organizing this Zoom and thanks to all colleagues and friends 02:34:38 Javier Surasky (Cepei): I apologize, I have to live the meeting. Keep counting on us 02:35:22 ANNESHA: https://treasuryofenglishlaws.wordpress.com/2020/03/26/freedom-v-british-government-at-ncovid19-why-restrictions-are-necessary/ 02:35:33 ANNESHA: Anyone want to read on Coronavirus 02:35:44 Averin Collier: Thank you, Dan and all for the continuous effort for global solutions! 02:35:51 Carmen Capriles: should we have a call only to sepan about COVID19?? 02:35:58 Rick Orser: The "South" may get its "turn" - stay tuned ! 02:36:02 dlkomi: Yres, that is very important, Dan! 02:36:02 Elena Marmo - GPF: Thank you, Dan a critical observation! 02:36:20 Connie Sobon Sensor: Thanks Dan for your comment on Covid19 02:36:21 Cristina Petcu: Thank you all for joing us today! 02:36:29 Jeffery Huffines: There will be a COVID briefing at UN tomorrow at 10 am, WebTV 02:36:29 Javier Surasky (Cepei): I have written a series of blog entries on Covid-19 and SD. You can see them here http://cepei.org/gobernanza-para-el-desarrollo/ 02:36:31 Alison Kelly: thanks 02:36:33 Averin Collier: how will you distribute the recording? 02:36:34 Jocelynj: thanks Dan! Great job